Hebrew Voices #183 – Early Mormonism Revealed: Part 1

In this episode of Hebrew Voices #183, Early Mormonism Revealed: Part 1, Nehemia continues his discussion with Dan Vogel exploring parallels between Mormonism and Islam, Joseph Smith’s attempt to establish a theocratic empire on the American frontier, and the rapidly-shifting … Continue reading →

In this episode of Hebrew Voices #183, Early Mormonism Revealed: Part 1, Nehemia continues his discussion with Dan Vogel exploring parallels between Mormonism and Islam, Joseph Smith’s attempt to establish a theocratic empire on the American frontier, and the rapidly-shifting nature of revelation and institutional religion.

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JimAugust 21, 2024 at 7:45 AM

NEHEMIAH!! So many partial accurate historical statements only to produce a lie. In Exodus 3:8 YeHoVah tells Israel he “…will bring them … into a land flowing with milk and honey”. That never happened. So God lied. Or maybe Moses was a false prophet and he lied which means he should be stoned. That is the logic and method of partial truths that Dan Vogel is using on Mormonism. Asking Vogel to speak on Mormonism is like asking an atheist to expound on YeHoVah. If you want to know about Mormons ask a leader of their faith. Worst case scenario is I will talk with you. BTW Moses’, like Joseph Smith’s, prophecy was not false. The people broke God’s covenant and lost the promise. God did not, nor cannot lie.

Phillip G BradshawJune 7, 2024 at 8:35 PM

I had never heard about the military plan of the Mormons before. Definitely diabolical, but not as far gone as Islam.

DavidApril 10, 2024 at 2:34 AM

Correct me if I am wrong, but in Nehemia’s own book, the Conspiracy of Silence, — I don’t remember what happened to my copy — you talk about the native Americans who worship Yehovah.
I am not familiar with the book of Mormon, but I grasp the general gist is that this is the story of how a bunch of people exiled from Jerusalem end up in the Americas.
Is there an alternative or well established history the BofM in any way contradicts?

DavidApril 9, 2024 at 6:26 AM

I thought your observation that there were parallels between Muhammad and Joseph Smith was interesting. Do you think that there are any parallels with King David?

DavidApril 9, 2024 at 5:29 AM

So what things have you seen that you can bear witness to?

DavidApril 9, 2024 at 5:26 AM

The last verse of the book of Mormon mentions Jehovah:

Moroni 10:34 And now I bid unto all, farewell. I soon go to rest in the paradise of God, until my spirit and body shall again reunite, and I am brought forth triumphant through the air, to meet you before the pleasing bar of the great Jehovah, the Eternal Judge of both quick and dead. Amen.

UzielApril 8, 2024 at 4:57 PM

However, it should be noted that Avraham Gileadi is a morman apologist and does not approach Y’shah‛yahu [Isaiah] from a Jewish perspective.

UzielApril 8, 2024 at 4:10 PM

Mazel Tov!

donald murphyApril 6, 2024 at 2:56 PM

y the heck would we care about mormons???
weren’t we told not to learn the ways of the heathens??? Stay away from them and the christians too.

LanaApril 4, 2024 at 7:58 PM

My husband and I were raised Mormon from childhood. I was 46 led by my husband who was 50, who finally learned the truth about JS and Mormonism, from the beginnings to the temple rituals, so other things that take place that is undercover, –like right under the noses of the faithful members. I still live in a Mormon small town in Utah, and trying to talk to someone about religion is completely frustrating. Most don’t read or pay much attention at all the the Bible, but mostly the NT unless they want to claim a promise in the Tanak, which JS did to fool people into believing the Bible brings him into it and makes him legit. The Book of Mormon and what the supposed prophet of the church says now in their magazine is what they read. People here are nice, now that it’s 30 years since we walked out, but it’s all fake. Everything about it is fake. There’s just so much and so deep.

LeslieApril 4, 2024 at 4:58 PM

No one understands the Book of Mormon or the end times like Avraham Gileadi.

Matthew ChamberlainApril 4, 2024 at 12:58 PM

Amos 8:11-12
Behold, the days are coming,” says the Lord GOD, “That I will send a famine on the land, Not a famine of bread, Nor a thirst for water, But of hearing the words of the LORD. They shall wander from sea to sea, And from north to east; They shall run to and fro, seeking the word of the LORD, But shall not find it.

People are looking for Revelation from God. So we get sucked in to cults like Mormon and Islam. I’m looking forward to the Day when God will lead us (Isaiah 40:10 – 11) and dwell with us personally (Isaiah 4:3 – 6, 7:14).

Thank you for this presentation, Dr. Gordon.

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