Hebrew Voices #164 – A Karaite Jew on Mormonism: Part 1
In this episode of Hebrew Voices #164 – A Karaite Jew on Mormonism: Part 1, Nehemia brings on the foremost historian of early Mormonism, Dan Vogel. They discuss what Bible scholars can learn from Joseph Smith’s cultural background of treasure … Continue reading →
In this episode of Hebrew Voices #164 – A Karaite Jew on Mormonism: Part 1, Nehemia brings on the foremost historian of early Mormonism, Dan Vogel. They discuss what Bible scholars can learn from Joseph Smith’s cultural background of treasure hunting and his rapidly evolving historical claims regarding the golden plates and the Book of Mormon.
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Hebrew Voices #164 – A Karaite Jew on Mormonism: Part 1
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Nehemia: Okay, then just to emphasize that point, around 590 BCE or something like that, Jews are coming over and becoming Christians in America. We'll get back to that.
Dan: Yeah, we’ll get back to that.
Nehemia: That's incredible.
Shalom and welcome to Hebrew Voices. I'm here today with Dan Vogel, he's the author of many books on early Mormon history; many is an understatement! He has a bachelor's degree from the University of California at Long Beach, and he's published around 30 volumes. You know when someone says “around”, that's a lot, when you've lost count, and about the same number of journal articles. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say Dan Vogel is one of, if not the foremost expert on early Mormon history.
I've watched a lot of videos and read a lot of material where people quote you, people who are within the Mormon world… And it's interesting, I saw one scholar who quoted you, or referenced your work, and he calls you “the revisionist historian, Dan Vogel”, and I'd like you to comment on that term, “revisionist”. I'm not sure what he means by that.
And then others who are maybe taking a more critical approach will just refer to you as Dan Vogel. And one of the major works that you have done is, you've gone through and tracked down a lot of the early sources on Mormonism. And I've done a little bit of reading; this isn't my expertise, obviously, but I've done quite a bit of reading and seen a lot of historians before you would pick little things here and there, and then you went through systematically. Tell us about that, bringing all of these sources. And there's an abundance of sources; it's incredible.
Dan: Well, that was one of the first things I did when I was still in the university, actually, is to try to gather all the sources dealing with Mormon origins and put them all into one place, and I produced five volumes over a period of time. And so, I wanted to give everyone the sources to work with, plus the annotations of who everybody is and introductions to each of these documents.
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Am I wrong or did I hear Nehemia recently became a father?
Mazel tov!
Pretty awesome the research done on this topic by Dan. A transcript would be great if ever possible. thank you
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How do I listen to all seven hours of nehemia’s interview with Dan Vogel.
Joseph Smith was a false prophet and was in reality a free mason.
Looking forward to part 2. I read the book of mormon a couple years ago, and am interested in Vogel’s take on the several inconsistencies found therein. Still, I marvel at the success of the various Lds churches, and the integrity and diligence of so many of their members (not all by any means).
I’m glad you did this interview. There is so much to be said about this subject.
I want to mention that the persecution he experienced was often due to his interest in young adolescent girls. At least one time he was tarred and feathered by a group of men/fathers went after him and brought a doctor along to castrate him. Apparently he somehow talked his way out of that and they tarred and feathered him and chased him out of town.
Would LOVE to hear an interview with Avraham Gileadi! That would be a great interview!
My sister is part of the Reorganized Church of Latter Day Saints and she and her fellow members have been called and calling themselves Mormon for at least 40 years
Very nice, I am a LDS member and love this video, I would love it if you could talk to Mauricio Berger about the Sealed Book and if Dan can also give his insight into this. Shalom
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