Prophet Pearls #15 – Bo (Jeremiah 46:13-28)
In this episode of Prophet Pearls, Bo (Jeremiah 46:13-28) Jeremiah, the prophet to the nations, foretells another “smiting” for Egypt—providing the connection to the Torah portion where the Lord, with a strong hand, brought his people out of Egypt. This time … Continue reading →
In this episode of Prophet Pearls, Bo (Jeremiah 46:13-28) Jeremiah, the prophet to the nations, foretells another “smiting” for Egypt—providing the connection to the Torah portion where the Lord, with a strong hand, brought his people out of Egypt. This time though, the smiting is at the hand of the Babylonians—a fact that provides another glimpse into the ways and means of Yehovah.
We learn more about the “iron furnace” that appears three times in the Tanakh—the crucible God used to turn a family of shepherds into a nation. We see an example of Yehovah swearing by his own name and Gordon provides an explanation for the “forest” in Egypt that was cut down. As we read of the “full end” planned for the nations of the exile, we’re reminded of the warnings in the Tanakh “not to be glad” because part of being faithful to Yehovah is caring about all human beings. Word studies include: “plague/makot,” “savior/moshiach,” and “tremble/maharid,”—with its root chet-reish-dalet and its connection to Haredi Judaism. Johnson closes with a prayer for hearts of peace—hearts that bring light and that hold God’s perspective for the nations of the world.
The original artwork at the top of this post was created for this episode of Prophet Pearls by Anna Jakubowski. It portrays Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon having dominion over Egypt and Jacob being protected.
"I will deliver [Egypt]... into the hands of King Nebuchadnezzar... But you, Have no fear, My servant Jacob..." (Jeremiah 46:25-7)
I look forward to reading your comments!
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Prophet Pearls #15 – Bo (Jeremiah 46:13-28)
You are listening to Prophet Pearls with Nehemia Gordon and Keith Johnson. Thank you for supporting Nehemia Gordon's Makor Hebrew Foundation. Learn more at NehemiasWall.com.
Nehemia: Shalom chaverim shelanu. Todah shehitz’taraftem eleinu batochnit, Pninim Mehanevi’im. Shalom, friends. Thank you for joining us on the Program Pearl – what’s the name of the program? Crap. Let me start over. Hold on.
Keith: You’ve got to be kidding me.
Nehemia: Wait. What’s the name of the program?
Keith: You’ve got to be kidding me.
Nehemia: Torah Pearls, sorry.
Keith: Are you – what?
Nehemia: No! Prophet Pearls. No, because I’m reading the Hebrew. In the Hebrew, it says, “Pninim Mehanevi’im.” But yes, okay.
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It is to bad that Keith and Jono would drop their christian leanings.
along with everything christian since it is false and a religion of the roman empire.
sure they dishonor a lot of things. don’t they worship the dead (halloween), how about the so called raising of the dead (easter), or how about the birth of a false god (xmas)??? Learn not the way of the heathen comes to mind.
Very good Jewel.
Hmmmmm…..seems to sound a lot like a Christmas tree. Come on!
(Keith, those last few minutes, you were *on fire*, and i love it! 😁) Jeremiah being a prophet to the nations is really cool. Theres some verses i wanted to share that i kinda thought show previous contact with babylon:
Jer 39: v11. Now Nebuchadrezzar king of Babylon gave charge concerning Jeremiah to Nebuzar-adan the captain of the guard, saying
v12. Take him, and look well to him, and do him no harm; but do unto him even as he shall say unto thee.
v14. …they sent, and took Jeremiah out of the court of the prison, and committed him unto Gedaliah … that he should carry him home: so he dwelt among the people.
:Like, nebuchadrezzar is destroying the place, and taking the people captive, and then says “captain, go get jeremiah”. It comes across to me as a top priority of the king and princes of babylon.
The next ones, nebuzar-aden is keen to even Gods plan and judgment, presumably because he heard it already before from jeremiah, and in verses 5 and 6 he shows so much care for jeremiah, its kinda touching and i think he was probably hoping jeremiah would come back with him:
Jer 40: v2. And the captain of the guard took Jeremiah, and said unto him, The LORD thy God hath pronounced this evil upon this place.
v3. Now the LORD hath brought [it,] and done according as he hath said: because ye have sinned against the LORD, and have not obeyed his voice, therefore this thing is come upon you.
v4. And now, behold, I loose thee this day from the chains which [were] upon thine hand. If it seem good unto thee to come with me into Babylon, come; and I will look well unto thee: but if it seem ill unto thee to come with me into Babylon, forbear: behold, all the land [is] before thee: whither it seemeth good and convenient for thee to go, thither go
v5. Now while he was not yet gone back, [he said,] Go back also to Gedaliah the son of Ahikam the son of Shaphan, whom the king of Babylon hath made governor over the cities of Judah, and dwell with him among the people: or go wheresoever it seemeth convenient unto thee to go. So the captain of the guard gave him victuals and a reward, and let him go.
I love listening to you both interact, brightens my day. Also I think many Christian’s feel about the O. T. The way Nehemiah confessed hearing about Egypt. “Okay that doesn’t concern me- let’s move on to Matthew and I’ll pay attention again!” And most don’t even realize they are in that spot.
trees and idols have a dual meanings as in Jer 10.
jc never existed people.
well I agree, here is another one for you… Luke 23:31 Yeshua calls himself an ‘ever green tree’… He also said that He is the light of the world
Why are some people soo atache to created things moor then the Creator
You must be referring to Yehovah’s Holy Spirit? If Eusebius wouldn’t have had ulterior motives for making Emperor Constantine appear as a God (and he did see himself as one) the trinity would not have come into existence. Arius would have put a stop to Athanasius, unfortunately he was poisoned. The trinity had its beginning with the Taoist’s in China, they believed in Earth, Man and Sky. Plato added eternal soul. But! Yehovah told Adam that the day he ate of that tree. He would (surely) DIE. I don’t know about you? but, I am surely not going to call Abba a liar. From dust we came and dust we will retrurn. This would make a whole lot more sense if you were to do a comprehensive study of Love. Yehovah IS LOVE. And if you could comprehend the eternal vastness of Yehovah? You could comprehend the eternal vastness of LOVE. Which brings us to the Messiah! If you did a comprehensive study of the word “Prince” (of peace) in the Tanakh you would find that He is the Prince who is for His people Michael who as John so aptly stated was “with” the Father in the beginning. The 1st born (only direct creation of the Father) (The Son of God)WHOM ALL THINGS were created by! Which verifies Yehovah”s statement that there is “ONE GOD” and NO others. Certainly! Yeshua IS sitting at the Fathers right hand and is now a divine being for the selfless ACT of LOVE and putting His whole (100%) trust in Yehovah. Only a perfect Man can give his life as a Ransom for a perfect Man. An eye for an eye, a life for a life! Its the LAW! But, the TRUTH is WAAAAAY more beautiful than you could possibly imagine! P.S. It was Eusebius who also threw in the 3 1/2 day/year ministry to prove Constsntine’s deity. Wasn’t it? My prayer is that in some small way that this may be of some help. May the LORD of ALL bless.
The 6000 years (or days) have passed and we are now IN the shabbat. “A thousand years are as a day”. As with the Jewish Age there was a harvest period that ushered in the Gospel Age. We are now in the harvest of the Messianic Age. So technically every day is a Shabbat. The 7000th year. What happened in 7 days? The reason we look back is to look forward.
I’m with you Keith, the Christmas holiday is definitely a season of worshipping all the little Christmas details such as trees, mistletoe, cards, pictures, parties, etc. It goes on and on… when I used to celebrate Christmas I used to sing “o Christmas tree” like any other gospel song and never thought of it any different. All along I was praising that tree and not YeHoVaH. Many other traditions I did and thank God my eyes are open to love God’s Word even if it means changing turning my life around in the right direction. God bless brother!
Ps..love you Nehemia! I love all your points. This was a great Prophet pearls!
the hated xmas tree is perfectly described in Jer 1:10. they didn’t call is a xmas tree, but that is what it has become.
thats wrong and not serving correctly. Please read Jer: 1-10.
wonder where they get the non marrying idea from, and know I don’t want to learn.
Jer : 10:1-10
Jer 10:1-10 read it.
Jer 10: 1-10 says is it all.
Money is the focus for almost everyone. Look at how many crimes are concerned because of money. There are a lot of people who are very wealthy who are as stingy as stingy can be. There are a lot of people who are not wealthy but they are as stingy as can be.
Nehemia, you rejoice over the increasing interest of Christians in your ministry, as well you should. Prophecies abound that the Lost Ten Tribes of Israel will return to the Covenant and to the Land. Those Lost Ten Tribes of Israel are only lost in Christianity, practicing paganism picked up from the Middle East through the British Isles, wherever the Roman Empire ruled. Constantine made The Roman Catholic Church the state religion, also ruled that Sunday was the Sabbath.
Amen ..i relate to this so much
I came out of Assemblies of God but studied many different religions. Yehovah graciously brought me to truth over many years. He kept me alive during 3 years of total rebellion in which I was strung out on cocaine. Why would anyone want to continue to celebrate with the traditions of men which have been associated with pagan worship when Yehovah plainly say Flee the appearance of evil. When we truly fall in love with Him we gladly lay aside these traditions. I have not yet learned Yehovahs feasts but have absolutely no desire to be involved any longer in any traditional holidays-days. I will do no holidays until I learn His Holy Days. I am so grateful for His mercy upon me.
As trees stand for men in some places maybe the killing of men.
All this laughter is contagious! Thanks! On another note, there are many issues connected to the history of Christ-Mass and all it’s attributes that go against YaHoVah’s commandments. Instead of making points I implore you to: Ask in sincere prayer to have the shells removed from your eyes in order to see HIS spiritual things, to open your ears to hear HIS spiritual things and to give your heart an understanding of HIS spiritual things. Then ask Him to reveal the Truth to you about what knowledge you seek. Then, do your own research into the History of Christ-Mass and then take each aspect of it and ask yourself; “Is this honoring or dishonoring YeHoVah? Does this go against the commandments or any of the scriptures in the entire Torah (Old and New Testament) cover to cover? YeHoVah is always faithful in answering what we diligently seek after. Shalom be with you.
Maybe since they are likening the people to locusts the Forest is symbolic for their homes. Now they are locusts looking for a new home as they recruit men through battle.
As I listen to Nehemia and Keith speak of the nations… and the differences… language, color, etc… I couldn’t help but think that when it is all said and done, In the beginning…all nations, all peoples come out of the genes of Adam and Eve. We all go back to the first two people on earth… and in the end… we will all be ONE again, possibly with the same differences we have now… but ONE in spirit IN Yehovah! No more fear, as the man in the elevator with Keith, or frustration of ‘it’s not about Israel so it doesn’t pertain to me… or anything else that might cause division… I rejoice in the Day we WILL all be ONE people as Yehovah is ONE God…
I think there is some deeper understanding that you miss here.
but if prophecies to Egypt have “dual fulfillment,” and an End Times fulfillment for a “spiritual Egypt,” then this DOES become more “relevant” I would think…
No.
So you’re saying that if some ignorant tree worshipper somewhere wrote a song about that tree, then forever after, all trees are off limits to be used for decor? Is that what you are saying?
I suppose you are right…
It would be a different story if people actually wrote a song about the tree and sang to it.
In regard to the Haredim, they’re basically “shakers” in English; in the state of Maine where I was born, there was a Christian sect actually called “Shakers”, founded in the 18th century, which were named for their pronounced shaking during worship. I speak of them in the past tense, because their doctrine doesn’t permit them to marry. As of 2012, there were three members left in Sabbathday Lake, Maine.
The whole “christmas is pagan” argument is ridiculous. YHVH used a tree, THAT HE CREATED, as an image of eternal life before man ever used it for any purpose. Whether a pagan has decided to use a tree for his purposes has absolutely no impact on the story found in Genesis and in Revelation about the TREE.
In fact, that tree has beautiful boughs and fruit that YHVH instructed to be used FOR DECORATION in the sukkah as well, the almond tree is a blueprint for the menorah and pomegranite trees carved in the temple.
It is absurd to think that if man uses a tree for decor, that he is bowing down or worshipping that tree any more than a Remington bronze statue is worshipping a cow or a horse or a bull.
I hope we all realize that just after the golden cow was fashioned to worship, YHVH instructed 12 of them to be built for the bronze laver.
Come on people……pagans cannot defile YHVH’s creation!
Isn’t this “egypt” a metaphorical egypt….iow, those who came out of egypt? Egypt itself, like you said, had no forest. Neither is there a conquering people of the north. North of egypt is the Mediterranean Sea.
Couldn’t this passage be a warning to Israel who longs to return to Egypt? They are called “daughter of Egypt” and verse16 says that the people say, “let us go back”. It just seems that if Jeremiah is prophesying in Israel, is he then instructed to go to Egypt to deliver this word TO THEM or is he delivering the word to Israel? Did Nebuchadnezzer invade and conquer and take literal Egypt into exile or did he do this to Israel? Will it be literal Egypt that is saved from this exile or is it Israel? Seems to me the subject matter being warned is Israel, although called “egypt” because of their idol worship. IN fact verse 11 tells us who he is talking to and it is the region of Gilead…..
To tell Christians that Christmas trees are idol worship; automatically puts the on the defensive, and a good meaningful discussion can not arise.
Your can go google the origins of Christmas Trees to decide on your own. Many people say well I have Jesus in my heart and don’t think of the Tree as an item of worship. Worship is that which we hold high value to, especially in a Kingdom connotation. Chrismas Trees are well rooted for generations of “family time” and it’s very difficult to see the truth. And like Eve, we look at the tree as it is good for the eyes, it has a pleasant smell; so her fault was making decision with her senses; not with HaShem’s truth. I know some people walking in Torah who can go kosher easier than give up the Tree. It is by size and decorative the focus of evry family, while they may have a small manger scene. .Decorations are often passed down from generation to generation. It evolves much of our time, and dollars. It is a highly emotionally charged discussion; and best not to try and convience people especially at Christmas time; when the influence is all around us; we are saturated in all the hoopla. When I stopped the whole Christmas practices, I gain great peace, shalom in the home. No stress over gifts, shopping, traffic, rushing around inviting guests having parties, etc. I repented ot my son for lying to him about Santa, tooth faires and Easter Bunnies. Some people say it’s just a fun game not a lie = really??? Not a lie. The more lies we make excess for the less we recognize truth. We should not condemn the use of such by other people, We are only responsible to HaShem for what we do. HaShem gave us His Kingdom culture, we are not to adapt to anyother culture or practices.
By the way there are only 3 times birthdays are celebrated in the bible and those were of tyrants, Pharough, Herod and one other I forget. The Jewish Jesus, and His family did not have birthday celebrations; they had other more meaningful customs for children that matched their mental and emotional growth. We can show through the NT and TaNaK when Jesus was born, and it turn out a Sukkot, a time we remember when G-d dwelt among us in the wilderness, and Yeshua’s birth is His dwelling among us in flesh and in our midst. Sukkot is known as the Time of our Joy! Joy to the World!
Shlaom Chavrim!
Really enjoyed this but the whole xmas thing caught me. I know Nehemia you haven’t had to deal with the tree and all the trappings in your life. But what Keith said is true – the devotion people have for the tree. Whenever someone who’s a Christian tells family or friends that they won’t be celebrating xmas or putting up a tree —-Oh my God!!!! You would think they murdered their mother. It doesn’t have to be people in your own house, just family who live miles away they are OFFENDED for some strange reason. There really is something to the “Spirit” of xmas. I think the enemy has just over time clouded our eyes and people blindly set up these trees and decorate them and all, but they have no idea why?? It is interesting how many parts of the passage you quote are things that people do with their trees. I get it that that was not the main point the prophet was making, but I wonder if Yehovah worded it the way He did so it would convict many of us in later years???
Either way, thanks for sharing guys! Shalom.
Nehemia shalom my name is tsephanyah.i was listening to your program and for most things I do support,but I have an issue and the issue is I have a friend believing he should watch the moon to determine the Shabbat.is there any stronger material I could help him out with?
In a Wiki article citing the following source, Nebuchadnezzar conquered Egypt: Elgood, Percival George. 1951. Later Dynasties of Egypt. Oxford: Basil Blackwell, p. 106.
When in doubt – throw it out – Xmas Tree that is.
Nehemiah, just a little note.. funny how you mentioned Christians not wanting to hear about “where’s Jesus” in regard to that “ingathering”, and you were the SAME way when you spoke of Egypt at 15:50 & 20:10 (still love you tho 😉
Loved hearing what you said about the Christmas tree Keith 🙂
To the Tune of “Deck the Halls”
Deck the halls with boughs of holly,
fa la la la la, la la la la
wrap it all up with a Christian bow.
fa la la la la, la la la la
Does it all ever make you wonder,
fa la la la la la, la la la
why do we decorate trees and wreaths?
fa la la la la la, la la la
Oh I grew up adoring Santa,
fa la la la la, la la la la
praying that I’d been good enough,
fa la la la la, la la la la
to receive gifts beneath our tree.
fa la la la la la, la la la
So when did this become okay?
fa la la la la, la la la la
Singing songs like, “Oh Christmas Tree.”
fa la la la la, la la la la
Finally I Googled “origin Christmas,”
fa la la la la, la la la la
Blending Truth must have seemed so harmless,
fa la la, la la la, la la la
but now we only know of Christmas.
fa la la la la, la la la la
Do we know the day of Sukkot?
fa la la, la la la, la la la
Christ’s birth, death and Resurrection,
were foreshadowed by these sacred Feasts.
fa la la la la, la la la la
From the “The Passover” to “First Fruits”
The Spotless “Lamb”, “Unleavened” One,
died, was buried and rose again.
At “Feast of Weeks” He sent His Spirit.
Each of these at the appointed time.
Fa la la la la, la la la la
I disagree, an idol is a carved or a molten nephesh-likeness. Look at applicable commandments when you are going to condemn anti-scriptural practices, then I will agree.
It’s amazing how many churches place their Christmas trees right next to their altar.
On the forest of Egypt its talking about the battle at Carchemish in Syria which was a strong hold that was the land for the Pharaoh Necho who fought Nebuchanezzar II there. Its the trees in that land and those forests verse 23 of Jeremiah is mentioning.
Funny thing Keith… when I shared some of these teachings with a friend I got the response, “but he’s a Methodist, he doesn’t keep the Sabbath”. I said, “i would bet he does, b/c to understand and teach these treasures in the Torah and not be walking in truth would be hypocrisy.” Don’t judge a book by it’s cover and most importantly: “You will know them by their fruits”. That is, the fruits of God’s spirit, ‘love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control…
May Yehovah continue to guide and bless you both!!
Thank you~
Keith is right about the Christmas tree,most Christians do have it as an IDOL
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