Prophet Pearls #21 – Ki Tisa (1 Kings 18:1-39)

In this episode of Prophet Pearls, Ki Tisa (1 Kings 18:1-39), Nehemia Gordon and Keith Johnson convene in Jerusalem to examine the brassiest display of prophetic prowess in the Tanakh. We are drawn into Elijah’s confrontation with Ahab as if … Continue reading →

In this episode of Prophet Pearls, Ki Tisa (1 Kings 18:1-39), Nehemia Gordon and Keith Johnson convene in Jerusalem to examine the brassiest display of prophetic prowess in the Tanakh. We are drawn into Elijah’s confrontation with Ahab as if for the first time. Hebrew word-plays jump off the page and demand attention. Gordon connects puzzle pieces to propose a fascinating and completely plausible reading of Obadiah’s back story. Who was he and what great news for mankind does he represent?

Gordon closes in a prayer of consecration to Yehovah—the one who in unfailing mercy redeems the hearts of unworthy men.

"you call on the name of your gods,
and I will call on the name of Yehovah" (1 Kings 18:24)

I look forward to reading your comments!

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Prophet Pearls #21 – Ki Tisa (1 Kings 18:1-39)

You are listening to Prophet Pearls with Nehemia Gordon and Keith Johnson. Thank you for supporting Nehemia Gordon's Makor Hebrew Foundation. Learn more at NehemiasWall.com.

Keith: Welcome to Prophet Pearls face-to-face. This is Keith Johnson, along with my friend Nehemia Gordon. We’re now going to call this Prophet Pearls Whatever It Takes. We are together in the Land of Israel. I just flew in late last night. You’ve been here for a few days. Nehemia, welcome to the Land of Israel.

Nehemia: Shalom, Keith. Welcome. I picked you up last night from the airport.

Keith: Yes.

Nehemia: Outside of Tel Aviv, and we drove into Jerusalem. I’m just so blessed to be here in the Land of the Prophets, speaking about the Prophets. It’s just amazing. I love it.

Keith: We’ll set a little context. You have found a place for us. We’re calling it “the safe house.” Nehemia, it’s in the basement. Where are we?

Nehemia: We’re actually in the second sub-basement of this building, which is built into the side of a mountain. We were looking for a place to record, and here’s a place where on one side is a mountain; the other side is a valley. So our hope, at least, is that there won’t be too many noise distractions. Jerusalem can sometimes be a very noisy city, and we were trying to look for a quiet place to record Prophet Pearls.

Keith: We were looking for a quiet place. Why? Because we were trying to record across the world. I was in one part of the world, you were in another part of the world; we were dealing with a number of issues, technology issues, et cetera. We just released a couple… just in the last 24 hours, a little promotional video about what we were willing to do – whatever it takes. We even got on a Harley Davidson.

Comments

PrabhuFebruary 27, 2024 at 1:07 PM

Thank You Sirs My Sincere Appreciation for Your Presentation.
Both of you quietly missed the 4 Pitchers X3 times of water poured while while the land was in severe draught. Which may be related to the rain dance during Sukkot.

shamir barnettMarch 12, 2023 at 1:41 AM

Shalom. Everything depends on context, so in one verse עפר can mean dust Gen 13:16, or “loose soil” Isa 34:7. The definition of עפר ranges from “fine particles of dust to dust and as mentioned soil. Hope this helps.

MarkApril 2, 2022 at 3:44 PM

Elijah didn’t offer or make a sacrifice at Carmel. He slaughtered a bull and placed it on the altar. It was Yehovah’s fire from Heaven that burnt and consumed it.

The Hebrew word used here for ”burnt sacrifice/offering” is olah/הָֽעֹלָה֙/הָעֹלָ֖ה which allows for this distinction because it has a dual meaning of “burnt offering” or “ascent (that which goes up, bring up), stairway, step”.

So Elijah broke no commandments and no laws of the Torah were suspended. Because he didn’t place the bull pieces on a burning altar or start a fire to make any sacrifice. He expressly made it impossible for any man to kindle by saturating it with water.

I can’t be the only one who has ever pointed this out. You’re telling me that no sages ever made this argument in their well-known writings?

I listened to this teaching several times in the years since it was first released. So I do suppose that if I’m only now seeing this distinction then maybe it was revealed to me to share with you. I’m not that smart. In any event, All glory goes to YEHOVAH!

Eric SpergerFebruary 19, 2022 at 10:10 AM

Your teachings from a Hebraic/Jewish perspective brings the Scriptures alive in a way that only a native Hebrew speaker could deliver. For those of us with limited knowledge of the Hebrew language and culture, you are able to fill in the blanks for us. Thank you, Nehemia! Your ministry (actually it’s Yehovah’s ministry) continues to be a blessing.

Klodjana KecoJune 25, 2020 at 2:22 PM

Yes, Nehemia- God is using you to change the life of hundreds, even thousands. You are so blessed! I pray that all your publications will be blessed with the spirit of Yehovah!

Steve StarrMarch 3, 2018 at 2:52 PM

I would not even thought about this except I listened to someone today who made a big-deal out of the word “dust” (a Rabbinic commentary) in verse 38. So I looked at the Hebrew version and found וְאֶת-הֶעָפָר which my Hebrew-to-English program translated as “and the dirt” rather than dust. Does anyone know what it translates to from Biblical Hebrew?

UKJMarch 3, 2018 at 11:53 AM

Alter and Mount Carmel

At the time the 10 Northern Tribes had been separated from the House of Judah. May this have been the reason for a separate alter?

Mandy MulickMarch 2, 2018 at 5:41 PM

Could I submit an idea for consideration. The discussion on whether Torah was suspended to allow a sacrifice outside of Torah.
I wonder if i could be so bold as to submit a question?
What about if it was judgement time? What about if YHVH showed the people what happens when a sacrifice is made that is not mandated? Nothing can stand. The consuming fire cleanses EVERYTHING that is offered. EVERYTHING is judged, consumed, destroyed. I highly doubt that anything is left behind to fellowship with. There will be no fellowship with YHVH if his prescribed method is not followed to a T. What about if YHVH came in judgment against every authority that raised itself or was raised up above YHVHs statutes and ordinances.?? To me that bears consideration. Love you guys!

JaniceMarch 19, 2017 at 5:12 PM

‘In the name of'” (name; meaning the authority, power, essense, character) of Yehovah. Passover the houses, could more culturally mean, passover the threshold of the house, each dwelling place had a threshold with a bowl or SAF, in the threshold, to welcome a guest, we’d go choose an animal, slaughter it, and pour out the blood into the SAFF, and the guest was to step over the threshold to show honor to the house, to tramble the threshold was dishonor.The door posts of Eqypt was covered in symblols of many gods, could call them household gods, those which provided, protected them; so to follow Yehoval, blood from the SAF is used to wipe off the idols of the home, that Yehovah is the ONE True God you are to follow, out the house and to a promomised land.

JaniceMarch 19, 2017 at 4:47 PM

I once knew a man who said, I don’t know why anyone would choose a peeve for a pet’.

walter schwenkMarch 18, 2017 at 8:20 PM

I wish the segment could have covered verse 42, the prayer of eliyah. Since learning to pray as he, with face between knees, bowed to the earth, I have learned what the shalom of Yah is.

CindyMarch 14, 2017 at 2:06 PM

I could see you two as the 2 end time prophets.
In this day when The False prophet is saying all the gods worshipped by the world are the same god. Your message of THE NAME of THE ONE TRUE ELOHIM is of utmost importance for many will be decieved.

DavidApril 30, 2016 at 8:49 PM

Your picture of the Ark has the staves in the sides but they should be in the ends. Does God go down the path sideways? Solomon put the Ark in his temple and pulled the staves back so they could not be seen. That can’t be done if the staves are in the sides.

Sprinkler ManFebruary 29, 2016 at 2:01 PM

Yes I’ll say it too, WOW! This Torah Pearls is “PACKED” full. Definitely going to require listening again.

I wanted to make a comment about you Nehemiah making plausible conclusions concerning Obadiah’s history. My personal definition of “wisdom” is; “the ability to take that which is seen to see the unseen”. Rom 1:20. Isn’t this an example of what you did with this man Obadiah? You Nehemiah, have the potential to be a very wise man. I believe your level of knowledge with applied heart is something Almighty God can build upon. You also have a wise friend to help. We all need a wise friend. I know it’s scary! I know. Venture in only if you truly believe YHVH wants you to be truely wise. Then you can lean on him to give you “wisdom from above”. There is that which comes from below. That must be made aware of also for juxtaposing without adherence. Yahushuah said to one, “are you a master in Israel and know not these things?” Do you wish to know? Do you want to be wise? Paul the “sent one” was a very wise man of YHVH. Lets see what our God will do with you.

I’m sorry for all the trouble you two have had as you press through with these Prophet Pearl sections. I am so happy you are. Thanks be to Almighty God and you two men along with the Partners to make it happen. So be it, me

Gary MichaelsFebruary 28, 2016 at 5:06 AM

It was drawn many centuries after the fact, judging by the look of it. Since they are pouring water on it, I presume that it’s not intended to represent the altar used by the priests of baal. As should be expected, it was created by someone not intimately familiar with the Tanakh.

Personally, I find the use of such pictures distracting and disturbing since many people give them too much credence. While not technically a ‘graven’ image, the effect is often the same.

Aron BrackeenMarch 7, 2015 at 8:01 PM

Thank you! I was intrigued by Nehemia’s mention of the Talmudic record about a certain 1st century “Sinner” of Israel when discussing the “troubler of Israel” (18:17). In exchange for vestiges of pre-torn toilet paper, and not unlike Elijah’s extra-Torah altar, maybe what Moses hoped for in his day (Numbers 11:26-29) was accomplished by that ‘great sinner’ at another time (Rev 1:5-6; 1 Peter 2:5,9). Thereby it seems perfectly precedented that holy anointing oil of a different mixture be used by, for, and among the holy priesthood mentioned therein. (See related Torah Pearls comment on that page.)

Tammi McAfeeMarch 7, 2015 at 5:35 PM

Love,love love you all!!!! (((Hugs)))
Love the pic with your bike!!!!

Ben MeleckMarch 7, 2015 at 12:43 PM

Interesting picture you chose. The Altar is made of cut stone. Of course this could be the altar of the priests of Baal.

Daniel HermanMarch 7, 2015 at 11:20 AM

Hey guys, KEEP READING! 1kings 18:40 Then Elijah ordered them,”Seize the prophets of Baal! Do not let even one of them escape.” So they seized them, and Elijah brought them down to the wadi Kishon and slaughtered them there.
Wow, how does one man kill 850 men by hand? With a NATION standing behind him! I love that Israel stands boldly in DIRECT opposition to the very prophets that they had become subject to, when they witnessed the fire of YHVH! May it be in OUR day, that YHVH emboldens Israel to STAND against the prophets of Baal.
That was my new all time favorite prophet pearls! Great work guys!

Karen PowellMarch 7, 2015 at 4:57 AM

Maybe, An alter of Abraham, Issac,or Jacob. As you see multiple times. They repeatedly built alters and wells in varying places. Before Moses.Just because they don’t name who the he was. At that time, Elijah is rebuilding and the people at that time had a concept of who believed enough to have built it and believed. But watch out for fire coming down again in the future. The Disciples mentioned bringing fire down and they were warned against it. Next, guy who does it is the Wrong Guy! Don’t be deceived by him.

Karen PowellMarch 7, 2015 at 4:21 AM

The Livestock are very important.Horses(war)and donkeys(war gear or priest, elderly, food/forage transport-harvest stompers) are very important as elements of war, peace, and survival. The nations physical survival is important and could be dependent on these animals. Humans may be important also but how can you travel vast areas or pull wagons or transport great amounts of food with? Without them the people could be destroyed by war and starvation especially at the time of drought. ox are strong but slow transporters. they are not energy efficient. Man who straddles fence may one day fall and hurt self. The cutting also releases endorphins-which in turn while on the outside might look messy. Will also reducing the actual pain response. (That’s one reason- why the chemical is released for survival to escape a predator during fight and flight).These guys could have been in a form of group hysteria/ecstasy as well. YHVH doesn’t need a grand show.

Katrina RahnMarch 7, 2015 at 1:57 AM

So Fabulous! I THANK YAHOVAH for you all and all your work.

Are you opposed to doing this very same thing with the Brit Chadashah?

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