Support Team Study – Reaping the Benefits of the Medieval Aviv Calendar: Part 2
Released From the Support Team Study Vault! In this episode of Reaping the Benefits of the Medieval Aviv Calendar: Part 2, Nehemia speaks with a scholar at University College London about how Karaites implemented the Aviv calendar in the tenth … Continue reading →
Released From the Support Team Study Vault! In this episode of Reaping the Benefits of the Medieval Aviv Calendar: Part 2, Nehemia speaks with a scholar at University College London about how Karaites implemented the Aviv calendar in the tenth and eleventh centuries, how their medieval Aviv controversies mirror those still raging today, and how they managed to maintain community cohesion despite profound difference of calendar observance.
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Support Team Study – Reaping the Benefits of the Medieval Aviv Calendar: Part 2
Nadia: This is what I’m seeing in the sources.
Nehemia: Okay.
Nadia: That they are very open to this diversity, and also, even, I told you when we last talked...
Nehemia: So, I’m waiting for you to tell the story! I’m trying to get you to tell the story about the woman and her ketubah.
Nadia: Yes, exactly!
Nehemia: This is the pinnacle of the entire conversation because it’s such a profound expression of diversity. I was shocked.
Nehemia: Shalom and welcome to Hebrew Voices. I’m here today with Dr. Nadia Vidro of University College, London.
So, here you have a letter from the year 416, or sorry, 417, and that is not the Islamic…
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The scripture only tells you how to begin a year, it never limits the number of months. So if there was no month of the aviv barley, then you do not have a 1st month for 3.5 years. The Holy days are on the 1st , 3rd and 7th months, after that there are none, so they just kept observing the new moon on month 14, 15, 16, 17, etc for a total of 48 months, since the rain would need to start the year before in order to have Aviv in the 4th year.
But that just what I think
00:45- Hijri 417 = 1026 gregorian, which is the beginning of year 18 of the metonic cycle. Year 17 would be an adar bet year. The first day of the first hebrew month after the 13th month would have been around the 31st of the gregorian 3rd month or the 1st of the gregorian 4th month. I do not see how there would have been any barley in the end of the 2nd gregorian month to have a 12 month hebrew year, And that also would have meant that there would have been possibly 4 years without an adar bet, which has never happened as far as I know, when based on a witnessed or calculated system.
the aviv wheat is a final witness (the earth is a witness). The earth cannot always speak it’s testimony if there is a drought or other weather change. Therefore, the earth’s testimony must be subbordinate to the sun, moon, and stars, in that order. I think. The priority of witnesses is ordinal as listed in the Torah.
So how did Noah on the ark, Moses in the Wilderness, and Israel during the 3.5 years of no rain from Elijah keep the Holy Days, without a barley harvest to observe?? They knew how to determine from the sun, moon, and stars just like the Bible says. So how do we do that? It cannot depend on a harvest that may or may not be. Revelation says another 3.5 years with no rain is coming. There will be no barley harvesting, but Holy Days will still be!
This year the aviv barley appeared suddenly – right before the Feast! This is why it’s important to keep watch.
Where does the wicked tenets of the vineyard come into play ? Psalms 2 says one thing but the whole world follows another.
Interesting subject. However, the 15 stages of Aviv seem to me to be an effort to standardize the timing, not dissimilar to the rabbinic efforts to do the same. This seems so simple to me if you work it backwards.
Having grown up on a farm, the farmer knows when the ripening will be finished. Thus, if you need to know if the month for the barley to be ready for the harvest {at the waving of the first fruits}, you simply ask the one growing it, at the first of the new month, if it will be ready in 15-16 days. If it will not, then it is not aviv yet. It really doesn’t have to be chosen by any color or hardness if it will not meet that time table. Why do so many need to complicate Scripture to feel somehow more secure about practicing what it lays out? Sorry, but I just don’t understand.
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