Torah Pearls #1 – Bereshit (Genesis 1:1-6:8)

October 17, 2023

This inaugural episode of The Original Torah Pearls, Bereshit (Genesis 1:1-6:8), kicks off with a “Portion101” and then game on. Gap theory, hyper-literalism, parallelism, something from nothing or something from something? Old earth or young earth? Cosmic battle or crafty … Continue reading →

This inaugural episode of The Original Torah Pearls, Bereshit (Genesis 1:1-6:8), kicks off with a “Portion101” and then game on. Gap theory, hyper-literalism, parallelism, something from nothing or something from something? Old earth or young earth? Cosmic battle or crafty animal just doing his thing? What hovered . . . an angel, wind, the “Holy Spirit”? Interpretations abound, but to Gordon, sometimes an “et” is just an “et.” What was hot-wired into the sun and moon on the fourth day? Despite chapter manipulations by an Archbishop of Canterbury what climaxes the creation story—mankind or Shabbat? Moving away from theories and interpretations, Johnson shares his own take on the creation story—where the original language speaks to him in such a way that he sees and feels the darkness flee and the light be.

I look forward to reading your comments!

Comments

Mark DesrosiersJanuary 3, 2026 at 12:10 PM

I believe the Hebrew word for light in Ch 1 was meaning: Illumination (ie. God’s Spiritual illumination) and Ch 4 used a Hebrew word meaning: visual light. Certainly warrants further personal study.

Kumi OreMay 18, 2024 at 4:05 PM

Who was the “us” and “our” referring to that was with Elohim in Gen.1:26 in the creation of man?

WayneJanuary 17, 2024 at 9:13 AM

I came hear to learn not be entertained. I only want truth so that in understanding I can serve my brother in truth. After 63 years there are numerous religions but still only one true Elohim, Jehovah. He works through the mind and heart of man at his pleasure for his glory, in his time. Elohim Jehovah will do all his pleasure and that we may seek him in all truth regardless of titles of congregations of men. Leaving behind the fables, deception and traditions of men….

Happy that he has dealt graciously to me in finding a path back to him in truth. Thank you Dr. Gordon for doing his will in your work.

Regards,
Wayne
a gentile in the states united for America

SherryJanuary 10, 2024 at 7:51 AM

Maybe the light created in day one did not need the sun, moon, stars etc. YeHoVaH is light, and in the end we won’t have sun, moon, stars because we won’t need for light. He created those so we would have season’s, etc. Just a thought.

SamOctober 20, 2023 at 9:54 PM

Moses called the light goodness. 24 hour days did not exist yet he created light …goodness some… Christians believe he created yeshua…that is why yeshua said he was there from the begining….

donald murphyOctober 14, 2023 at 4:39 PM

stay away from that pagan religion christainty.

SherriOctober 10, 2023 at 9:40 PM

Two cryptic references in the Torah cause the confusion about the status of Shemini Atzeret. In both Leviticus and Numbers, God commands that the eighth (shemini) day –referring to Sukkot–is to be a “sacred occasion” and an atzeret, generally translated as “solemn gathering.”

ALONSO MENDOZASeptember 6, 2023 at 8:52 AM

Hover: could it be that God was giving birth to all of creation? For example, dont hens ”hover” before laying an egg?

JoséJuly 27, 2023 at 4:34 PM

Nehemia, is there an explanation of why light was created in day one, plants/trees in day three but the sun in day four? I mean, the sun is what provides light, and is what makes plants to grow, right?

donald murphyOctober 22, 2022 at 5:26 PM

since shemini atzeret, the annual reading, nor hanukkah r not in scripture, then y do people celebrate them??

Walter SchwenkOctober 20, 2022 at 11:02 AM

It would have been GREAT to have had prof Gerald Schroeder in on this gen 1 conversation. Thanks Nehemia for the two times you had him on the hebrew voices series. After the bible, I count his interpretation of gen 1 as the best ever.

PaigeAugust 14, 2022 at 2:38 AM

Pearls colleted:
1.about the chronological problem of God’s creation, Nehemia refers the view of numbers of jews is not that exact as the Christian or westen view. This point let me think of the difference between Chinese ancient culture and western culture. Chinese ancient painting never seems as real as western oil painting. I don’t think if this approves some contrast between estern and west.
2. about “Et” in Hebrew the grammatical truth V.S. theological belief of referring to Jesus, I think latter one is just Nehemia’s respect of different view. It is so clear and easy here. I would like to know how Nehemia talk about more places in old testment reffering to Jesus by Christian.
Thanks for u all for this leading truth talk show. I am trying to follow from Bereshit. Hope not too late. Thanks.

Brian HansonNovember 4, 2021 at 4:48 PM

Keith on arum & Nehemia on mo’adim. Mind-blowing insights.

GarrySeptember 27, 2021 at 9:28 AM

I read a long time ago that God “began” to create the heavens and the earth

John Jacob SNovember 3, 2020 at 9:00 AM

Finally found my confirmation. It was heartwarming to find the nikkud to the holy name of the Judaeo-Christian God.

Jose Cruz Marquez AguilarJuly 26, 2020 at 8:54 AM

I believe that science is a way to discover/understand many thing that God does (even when many scientist claim to be atheists).

About the creation, I believe that God doesn’t create anything that is chaotic, without order. I also believe that the whole process starting from verse 2 is literally 6 days… but, from verse 1 to verse 2 I believe there is a “gap” of many years (could be hundreds, I don’t know) and this is why:

1. I believe that God created everything and I was good (even maybe God did it through a big-bang).
2. I can’t turn my back to the fact that there are proofs of the dinosaurs, so I believe they were part of the original/first-part-of creation.
3. When Adam disobeyed, Satan was already a “fallen angel”.
4. Based on previous point, I believe that Ez 28 is a “shadow” of what Satan did, so, in the “gap” between verse 1 and 2, is the time when Satan became actually Satan, and that caused the destruction of everything that was on the Earth.
5. This destruction caused the Earth to be in chaos (we know, that if a few of the biggest volcanoes start erupting, the Earth would fall into an irreversible process of darkness and destruction due to all the clouds/smoke/rocks… etc).
6. Then the Earth is now in chaos, void, dark… and the process of creating the Earth as we know it, started. That is what Genesis focus on, the establishing God’s order on Earth, and then with the “crown” of creation, the human being.

That is the way I see it, but I ask God to always make see the truth, so I can “fix”/change what I believe. And of course, as you said, believing in this gap or not, it does not affect my relationship with God, but it certainly makes me see that, in fact, everything was created by his Word/Hands, including the dinosaurs (or the rests of them)

Yehovah bless you and your ministries!

GaryApril 10, 2020 at 3:17 PM

See how easily errors can be made? Of course I meant,
“In the sense of Ecclesiastes … it may not really matter at all what we think.”

Which brings up the issue: Can I edit what I have posted? It’s hard, being human, to be perfect.
Gary

GaryApril 10, 2020 at 3:03 PM

Well, I’d like to explore this statement more deeply with you, but I’m not sure it is “on topic” in this forum. I will just “tease” it a little to say that I disagree with the notion of “true and false” when evaluating the NT. Remember, like all documents of this type, it is opinions of Spiritual matters expressed in Physical reality concerns. It is very difficult to express in words and images that are all physical in nature. Plus, the writings we have are copies of copies or copies … done by Why Knows? who have various skills or lack of over many years, translated from and to a variety of languages which weren’t known by some of the scribes, even some of whom didn’t read at all but were only copying characters one by one. The whole process is fraught with mistakes and errors of various kinds, and has been changed with rearrangement, and revisions based on personal opinions of the copyists and their managers. Hopeless? Maybe. But does any of it speak to the truth of reality in no way? I hope by looking at it deeply and considering its time and ours, we can dig out some obvious “truths” and some partial truths, and even skip or modify some untruths that we can see were made.
Hard job? Yes. Possible at all? I hope so.
Yes, I’d like to explore more deeply. In the sense of Ecclesiastes … it may really matter at all what we think.

GaryApril 10, 2020 at 2:32 PM

What an interesting post. I like your imagery and the concept of God’s light being the Holy Spirit in the world. I am coming to a notion that the Holy Spirit (and other such related descriptions) is a bridge connecting the Spiritual reality to the Physical reality.
I feel that the components of each reality interact with other components of their particular reality. My problem is the question of how these realities may interact. The Holy Spirit (or Light of God) may be thought of as such a connection.
I have often counseled persons going through tough times in their lives that the darkness in their lives and future is like a large shadow in the path before them. Could it be, I ask, your own shadow you see before you because you have turned your back to God? Change and turn more and more around to go toward God (the light} and the darkness will have no part of your future.
I think people can hold such an image for a long time. It is simple, and is actually pretty easy to confirm.
Thank you.

Patricia PalinskiJanuary 23, 2020 at 10:36 AM

What convinced me of a young earth is not something in outer space but here on earth: the oceans are not yet full of salt. If the earth and the oceans are millions or billions of years old, there would be so much salt in the water from minerals washing down for so long, the water would be super-saturated with them such that it would be precipitating out and falling to the bottom. Water can hold only so much dissolved minerals. We have explored the bottom of the oceans, and there is no layer of salt scores or hundreds of feet deep, that you would expect to find if the oceans have been collecting salt for millions of years. So that adds to the evidence from outer space–the process of minerals washing into the seas cannot have been going on for very long, or there would be tons more salt in the water than we find now.

Jeremy HulaDecember 24, 2019 at 1:29 PM

What about the book of Jubillees. It says and then Yehovah shut the mouths of the animals. They used to talk before the stunt with the serpent.

Jeremy HulaDecember 24, 2019 at 12:49 PM

I like the way that they camped in the shape of a cross in the desert.

Gregory IrbyNovember 22, 2019 at 9:38 PM

Interesting discussion guys.
GOD is light / GOD dwells in Unapproachable Light. The scriptures tell us things like this.
Could it be that when GOD Spoke and said “Let There Be Light”, that what he was really saying was “Let My Holy Spirit be present in all the world?

One thing I have learned over the years is that the Word of God tends to be Spiritual, especially the Prophetic Writings.
It’s bread from Heaven and food for thought.

7 the number of completion? I found that to be an interesting concept. GOD completed all his work in 6 days. It is true the the 7th day completes the week.
I have been taught that 7 is the number of Spiritual Perfection and 10 represents completion. We count 1 thru 10.
Unless,… Your a Mayan Indian and you head God is the Great Dragon and you count by 20’s

According to their prophecies: Quezicotel is scheduled to return at the beginning of the next age or era. Their last age ended in 2012.
Isn’t it interesting, in “Revelation” we’re told “Whoa to the Earth and Sea for the Devil has come down to you having Great Wrath, knowing that his time is short. ”

From the beginning of the Creation until the time of the end we have the very WORDS OF YEHOVAH! Hallelujah!

In the Tanakh & the NT we are told GOD is going to return and retake this planet by force and dwell with his people forever!

Satan is gonna get the boot!

I know this may be a little offtrack for the Genesis study but, whether Jew Christian or Muslim, we all look forward to the return of GOD and the establishment of HIS Kingdom.

Shalom Friends!

donald murphyOctober 26, 2019 at 4:54 PM

once again people, we need to stay from the so called new testament. its not true.

John StavaOctober 26, 2019 at 4:35 AM

Thanks for an informative portion.

UKJOctober 12, 2018 at 9:59 PM

PS
On a side note it seems that instead of gradual improvements on the earth , things are actually deteriorating, this could explain the lengthy life that people had in those days. It is only medical science that extends the life of people’s in our society.

LaurieOctober 11, 2018 at 9:21 PM

What I love about God our Father is that He does things past my understanding. I love what is written in 1:3 “Let there be light” and He hadn’t even created the moon or the sun yet! “His Spirit hovered over the surface of the water. ” I am in Awe of Him! And what Yochanan wrote in the first chapter lines right up with what is written in the beginning. Absolutely beautiful!

DavidOctober 11, 2018 at 7:19 PM

I think the seven creation days were both single days and thousand year periods. The seventh day comes right after the sixth. We are nearing the end of the sixth thousandth year period – one more thousand to go!

DavidOctober 11, 2018 at 7:11 PM

In Job38, YHVH says He set up the foundations of the earth, measures, sets the cornerstone, makes the morning stars appear, pours water over the earth and swaddles the earth in dark clouds. I see no reason our star (the Sun) wouldn’t appear at the same time as all the other stars. This is the condition of the planet at the beginning of the first day indicating that all these Job38 actions occurred before the first day. Job38 is part of Gen1:1 before we start on Gen1:2. I’m sure there were other things which make up Gen1:1 as well. How long does all this Gen1:1 stuff take? I don’t see any Torah answer? I doubt it takes 14.5 billion years and I am quite sure there was no Big Bang. All the morning stars shone together. Were the Sons of God (angels) created at the same time as the morning stars or did they exist before?

Walter SchwenkOctober 11, 2018 at 12:16 AM

Sandra; Amen…

Walter SchwenkOctober 11, 2018 at 12:14 AM

UKJ, you might appreciate Gerald Schroeder’s take on the days of creation, “genesis and the big bang.” The earth came into being in rough form, then was brought to habitable condition. In other words, heaven and earth were created on day one, but in “kit form”, with some assembly required.

Sarah Fennel BuchananOctober 7, 2018 at 9:43 AM

I have a question about Gen. 2:4, in many English translations it says “these are the generations of the heavens and of the earth…” Could that be a correct translation from Hebrew and if so wouldn’t that lead us to think it wasn’t 6 literal days?

Teresa. HenriquesOctober 6, 2018 at 6:48 PM

In this exact moment I am listening to Torah Pearls, Genesis, and in my Bible in Spanish, in the first verse says: IN THE BEGINNING, WHEN GOD CREATED THE WORLD…..so the word which clears this verse is WHEN?

Randy HeatonAugust 11, 2018 at 10:34 AM

I just like to study Torah with other people who like to study Torah.

Ruth PetersonMay 3, 2018 at 8:54 AM

Thanks for your posts with the three which is a good way to discuss views of Torah and yet k3ping a good Spirit…

Sherri YoungNovember 19, 2017 at 9:23 PM

Nehemia, have you every taken a long look at the Young’s Literal Translation? What do you think of the YLT’s translation of Genesis 4:26? Is that a good translation of that passage?

Thanks.

KristaOctober 14, 2017 at 10:55 PM

Will you ever do a redo of Bereshit that covers the entire section? There are so many questions I and others have that we would benefit from a redo where you cover all of this section

Ursula JebbApril 10, 2017 at 12:10 PM

Gen 1:2
And the earth was without form, and void;
Friedrich Heinrich Wilhelm Gesenius,1812
Christopher Leo’s edition of Gesenius, published in 1825
gives the meaning: “to be” or “to exist”, “to become”, “to be done”,

The text in Gen.1:2 could be rendered “the earth had been created perfect and then it became without form, and void..
However, this could possibly be a problem for those who believe in evolution.

UKJApril 10, 2017 at 5:40 AM

In addition …

Jas 1:13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempts he any man:

This begs the question :” How could Eve have been tempted by a serpent without vocal cords?

UKJApril 8, 2017 at 1:59 PM

Gen 3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

Somehow I feel something might be missing in our understanding of the serpent as an animal. I am specifically referring to the conversation bit. Please may I ask whether the Hebrew text is the same in it’s translation and meaning?

I do understand that Yehovah is wanting us to understand things and this may be the only way …of course most relate the serpent to satan, but I would be most appreciative in understanding the actually Hebrew meaning of the words and whether the english translation is missing some points?

UKJApril 8, 2017 at 8:21 AM

Animals (snake in the case of Gen.) vs. Humans

Ah, how marvellous, now I get it and understand why I am being whispered to by my pets, they always get their treats that way, just realized this..thank you for giving me that comprehensive insight!

I realize now how superior they are, they can tell me without speaking a word…

(Only kidding)

UKJApril 8, 2017 at 7:40 AM

Gen 1:2 And the earth was without form, and void;

I do have a question, :”Without form and void” What is the exact translation from the Hebrew text ?? Thank you for the answer.

Roopods6October 25, 2016 at 1:34 PM

So that Genesis 1:1 actually tells us that “In the beginning” – “Created Elohim” – “at the heavens” – “and at the earth”. Nice to finally hear the correct meaning after 55 years. That isn’t being sarcastic either. Thank you Nehemia.

One small oversight I’d like to mention though. In the beginning of what? My point being the whole purpose of a material universe is completely glossed over as per the usual. We think so small don’t we? I mean we haven’t a clue of a greater reality even existing do we? The greater reality existed before a created material universe ever did. For eternity past we haven’t a clue just as we haven’t a clue to eternity’s future. We have only the Creation made by the Creator for his story (Word). Genesis 1:1 begins the story, His Story (History) of the Creation that he made for his son(s).

The greater reality is the ‘spirit world’ that has existed and will continue to exist when this material world no longer exists. The Adonai of Ruachs (Lord of Spirits) created the spirit within your own flesh (Psalm 139:13) when it was in your mothers womb. Yah is the EL (Mighty One) who judges (Psalm 82:1-8) Elohim (mighty ones) is he not? And wouldn’t that mean it was the mighty ones, the Elohim who helped in the creation of the material universe according to the Word of Genesis 1:1? I mean weren’t the Elohim there too? Doesn’t that say exactly just that in Genesis 1:1?

Ursula JebbSeptember 12, 2016 at 3:32 PM

Thank you David, this does indeed make rational sense.

LaurieJune 14, 2016 at 2:46 PM

I have to agree that in chapter one, Yehovah created and is written what Yehovah created. In chapter two gives the history of what He created. How and when. I would like to comment on something I love in chapter two. From a woman’s perspective. I love the thought of my Father, our Father. Causing the man to sleep while He formed me. I don’t know how much alone time Ishah had with our Father, but I, my alone time with Him. This is the time when I am free and truly am loved and safely I can love.

David FischerApril 8, 2016 at 8:55 PM

Yes, exactly. That’s why it says Noah was “perfect in his generations.” This is the only time in the bible this phrase is used. I don’t think it means Noah was perfect, but rather that he had no corrupt DNA.

I first read this in a Jewish commentary. This fallen angel corruption has been a Jewish idea for centuries, maybe even prior to Jesus.

David FischerApril 7, 2016 at 7:59 AM

Nehemia, Thank you for all these teachings. It is so wonderful to have a Hebrew perspective.

On the light issue, I read this more along the lines of drawing back a curtain. It is as if the world is swaddled in a curtain of dark clouds and “let there be light” does not create the light, but rather draws back the curtain and lets the light in. The curtain is drawn back more and more until on the fourth day the sun, moon and stars become visible. The heavenly lights were not created on the fourth day, they only became visible on that day. The text seems to mention that, oh by the way, Elohim was the maker of these heavenly bodies also, but it doesn’t say when. I can’t read Hebrew well enough to know if this is all born out in the original text? Your thoughts?

I read that YHVH created the universe in the beginning. Then, He came to a formless world and took six days to change it to support life. He may have made the universe in an instant but then why take six days, six light and dark periods, to form life on the planet? To show us Shabbat, of course. I don’t know how long it took to create the universe and if I was meant to know the Torah would have told me.

VirgilOctober 1, 2015 at 11:10 AM

If an evening and the morning constitute a day, does this mean we are still in the 7th?

Erin HunterAugust 30, 2015 at 12:40 AM
Sandra IventoschDecember 30, 2014 at 8:13 AM

Gerald Schroader, a brilliant Israeli physicist, wrote a book entitled, “Genesis and the Big Bang” that is a must read for anyone contemplating the accuracy of Bereshit verses what we theorize must have happened (step by step) in a big bang event.

Antonio GaryDecember 1, 2014 at 12:28 AM

I am new too this my brothers but am open and willing and thirst too learn

buddy mascaroNovember 23, 2014 at 8:22 PM

a snake really, its the fig. of speech ,hypacatastasis .see bullinger ,a person well versed, john w schoenheit ck, it out or not. im no schalor by any streach but yehovah loves to use figures of sp.your buddy Michael rood would a great deal about them from his background.

SekartajiNovember 20, 2014 at 7:00 PM

Nehemia, I am waiting for you and Keith to continue this Bereshit and talking about Cain, Abel, Set, Enos, and Nephilim!

Ursula JebbOctober 19, 2014 at 7:17 PM

Very interesting, thank you.

I would like to throw in the following questions:

‘Why did Jehovah bring in the flood upon such an ungodly and wicked world, when the world carried on as before after the flood ? ‘

Could it be that it had to do with the “DNA”, which became completly corrupted by these wicked spirits ?(who took wifes from the human race)

Could this explain Noah and his family as the only Humans with DNA still uncorrupted as to represent Humans made in the image of Jehovah? Just wondering.

HelwingOctober 19, 2014 at 11:56 AM

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Pozdrawiam, Helwing
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ariellatOctober 18, 2014 at 6:50 PM

Just to refer to the idea of ex Christians not tolerating Christian teachings, Some, perhaps most of us need to make a clear division between what we used to believe and what is truth. Otherwise it comes across as confusion. Perhaps after coming to a stand and being settled, then to look at the other side might be more comfortable. People in a process are on a journey and don’t want to look back. Thanks for your very good study on Bereshit!

Laurie JoOctober 18, 2014 at 6:30 PM

YHWH Elohim alone created the heavens the earth, the seas, and fountains of water, so fear Him, because the hour of His judgment occurs without fail. This is the good news folks. Read Revelations 14:6-7, and don’t believe the misconception that Yahushua Messiah created anything. That is not what Scripture teaches.
All things were created through, by, or for Yahushua, meaning that YHWH created all things with Yahushua in His heart to make everything filled. Yahushua fills the feast days, etc… Yahushua IS The Prophet of whom Mosheh spoke, etc…
Written in love for Abbas people,
Laurie Jo

Rachel TanOctober 18, 2014 at 3:41 PM

After listening this episode about Creation part for many times, I came to my personal conclusion. When God create the universe, from day 1-6, it before human time, so IMHO the “day” length were different with what we know now. After day 6th, Adam life in Eden, in my understanding, it is not on the earth we know now. We don’t know (or I don’t know) how long the different time between Adam and Eve creations.

Now, if in bible stated the age of Adam, is that his age after he became mortal, or since he created by God? Also, when Adam created, he already in mature age (not in cute baby form).

So whatever the theory is, my faith to Jehovah as Creator is still the same.

krisOctober 18, 2014 at 3:23 PM

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Genesis 1:1-2partial
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. And the earth being without form and empty, and darkness on the face of the deep…

Isaiah 45:18-19
For so says YHVH, Creator of the heavens; He is God, forming the earth and making it; He makes it stand, not creating it empty/vain, (but) forming it to be inhabited. I am YHVH, and there is none else. I have not spoken in secret, in a dark place of the earth. I did not say to Jacob’s seed, Seek Me in vain. I YHVH speak righteousness, declaring right things.

hayah – to be, to become, to be made or done, to exist, to come to pass, to be over, ended, gone by

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I have heard that …
Water + Particular Sound Frequency = Full Spectrum of Light
Any scientists out there? Is this true? If so, any reliable scientific journal articles (or the like) to which someone could point me?

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Any opinions on the use of “eth” and “ha”?

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Opinions …. double helix or rib, or both?

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Yes, it is true that some Christians such as myself view the serpent as more than a serpent. Likewise…

Ezekiel 28:11-19
And the word of YHVH was to me, saying, Son of man, lift up a lament over the king of Tyre, and say to him, So says the Lord YHVH: You seal the measure, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. You have been in Eden the garden of God; every precious stone (was) your covering, the ruby, the topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper; the sapphire, the turquoise, and the emerald, and gold. The workmanship of your tabrets and of your pipes in you, in the day you were created, they were prepared. You (were) the anointed cherub that covers, and I had put you in the holy height of God, (where) you were. You walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. You were perfect in your ways from the day you were created, until iniquity was found in you. By the multitude of your trade they filled your midst (with) violence, and you sinned. So I cast you profaned from the height of God, and I destroyed you, O covering cherub, from among the stones of fire. Your heart was lifted up because of your beauty; you corrupted your wisdom because of your splendor. I have cast you to the ground. I will put you before kings, that they may see you. By the host of your iniquities, by the iniquity of your trade, you have profaned your holy places; thus I brought a fire from your midst; it shall devour you, and I will give you for ashes on the earth, in the sight of all who see you. All who know you among the peoples shall be appalled at you; you shall be terrors, and you will not be forever.
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I have heard that that word can also mean naked. Is that true? Any comments?

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According to Geza Vermes, “Various Qumran caves have yielded for the first time the original Aramaic text of one of the major Pseudepigrapha, the Book of Enoch, which was previously known from a complete Ethiopic translation…”. While Vermes states that , “The [content] differences they display concern partly the structure of the work…” and also that “There are also noticeable stylistic divergences which may be attributable more to the absence of a unified text of Enoch than to the work of the Ethiopic translator”, I nonetheless find some of it interesting. Below is an extract from 4Q206, along with a quote from the Epistle of Jude. I am aware that the comparison is a huge stretch, but nonetheless it’s interesting to me and so I figured to share. [Note: The two passages from 4Q206 (below of which is one) that Vermes includes in his volume, according to him, “testify to a recension noticeably different from the corresponding Ethiopic version.”]

4Q206 I xxii
Vermes
… [the soul] of all the sons of man. And behold, these are the pits for their prison. They were made thus until the day of their judgement, until the final day of the great judgement which will be imposed on them. vacat There I saw the spirit of a dead man complaining and his moaning rising to heaven and crying and complaining…

Jude 1:6
And those angels not having kept their first place, but having deserted their dwelling-place, He has kept in everlasting chains under darkness for the judgement of a great day

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Noah:
Just man
Perfect generations
Walked with God

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Matthew 24:36-37
But about that day and the hour, no one knows, neither the angels of heaven, except my Father only. But as the days of Noah, so also will be the coming of the Son of man. For as they were in the days before the flood: eating, and drinking, marrying, and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah went into the ark — and they did not know until the flood came and took all away — so also will be the coming of the Son of man.

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Rev 12:7-9
NASB
And there was war in heaven, Michael and his angels waging war with the dragon. The dragon and his angels waged war, and they were not strong enough, and there was no longer a place found for them in heaven. And the great dragon was thrown down, the serpent of old who is called the devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.

Debra aka Devora ForsmanOctober 18, 2014 at 3:04 PM

Nehemia could the ruach be the breath of Elohim when He spoke it havered (lol) over or caused a flutter or ripple effect as He spoke and the very sound waves from His speaking caused things to come into existence? I know I get a little out there sometimes but this is what I see in my minds eye as Yehovah begins to speak those words, it was like the sound waves caused a ripple effect over the water….I know! Way out there right? Have you seen those videos where the sound waves cause different beautiful patterns to form? THINKING outside the box!

Linda MurrayOctober 18, 2014 at 11:49 AM

Nicholas Mansfield… EX-SQUEEZE ME, dear…!

Proverbs 8 says… “I, WISDOM…” which I believe you & I BOTH agree is Yeshua/ Messiah.

He most CERTAINLY DID have a hand in the creation… & I will show you how.

‘Gen 1:1…
In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.’

Bereshit… in the beginning… has not been fully translated correctly in the English. It SHOULD read… ‘With WISDOM God Created…’

Nicholas MansfieldOctober 17, 2014 at 6:54 PM

Can someone please refer Keith to Proverbs 8? There the messiah witnesses YHWH creating. He has no hand in the creation. The Qur’an confirms this (latter) matter, in agreement with the Tanakh. Christians seem confused by the John 1:1-3. It should be interpreted:

“In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God and the word was [the will of] God. This is the one was in the beginning with God (Prov. 8:22,29, Micah 5:2). Through him everything [with purpose] came into being and without him nothing that exists came into being [with purpose].”

Robert HigginsonJuly 19, 2014 at 4:41 PM

On the question of time during creation week, it is very simple. Light is not necessary to provide a measure of time. All that is needed is a regular motion and a reference point. The rotation of the earth is a regular motion. We need light in relation to observing the passage of time as a means of communicating the information to us. The creation of the lamps on Day 4 (described by an observer on this planet) added a reference point for human observation of days, as well as mechanisms for months and years. But they were not necessary for the measurement of time on Day One.

There are things in the solar system which support the young-earth viewpoint. One is the recession of the moon. It is slowly getting further from the earth (and I can never remember whether it is an inch a yer or only a centimetre a year). Projected back in time, this points to increasingly violent tides. Well within the time scale postulated by evolutionists, the tides would have been too violent to match the scenario they propose. Secondly, the rings of Saturn are falling onto the planet at such a rate that it is very unlikely that they are millions of years old. Thirdly, when the Voyager probes were being launched, Russell Humphries proposed readings for the magnetic fields of some of the outer planets and their moons, based upon a Genesis chapter 1 model with young-earth assumptions. His predictions were ridiculed as being too far from what other people expected on an evolutionary model. But the measurements from the Voyager probes vindicated Russell Humphries’ model. Fourthly, the lack of significant quantities of meteorite dust on the moon, coupled with the distribution of craters on the moon and Mars, also imply a recent date of origin and a unique and relatively short-lived burst of impacts. There are still enough lumps of rock in the solar system to continue to do damage, but not enough to match an evolutionary time scale. Fifthly, the relatively short life of comets, and the lack of any observations of the postulated Oort Cloud (postulated to explain why we still have comets if the solar system is hundreds or thousands of millions of years old) fits better with a young earth model.

Diane BuckalewJune 2, 2014 at 11:14 AM

Nehemia I was able to listen to whole program with no problems. thank you

SandyJune 2, 2014 at 10:45 AM

Seems to work fine. Appreciate any teachings I can find of yours. Michigan

Jeffery Roger JusticeJune 1, 2014 at 10:42 PM

I Had no problems with the sound or stream…

yzwisey62June 1, 2014 at 4:39 PM

Stream cuts out but, picks back up.

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