Torah Pearls #9 – Vayeishev (Genesis 37:1-40:23)

Have you ever considered the possibility that this is where the concept of sin offering comes from? If you search all the references of the Hebrew translated ‘kid of the goats’ שעיר עזים thru the whole of Tanakh you will see it is only used to describe the common sin offering of the people, except of course this foundational usage here where Yosef’s brothers placed the blood upon Yosef’s ketonet (priestly garment) in an attempt to cover their crime from their F/father. Is this the foundation from where the idea of covering sin with the blood of a hairy goat comes from? When one offered a hairy goat for their sin, was it also supposed to remind them of this foundational event?

so ifa woman covers her face that she is a prostitute. So by extension how does this apply muslim women???

I agree with you 100 percent. Jesus was very clear in John 20:17 who our God and his God is!

I am with you. All the research I have done says exactly the same…a long sleeve and length to the feet, not colors. Also, what is the significance of the coat being given to him?

Great episode! I love listening to you guys.

I am a prolific dreamer and I think there needs to be clarity on the dream subject with regard to Deut 13:1-4

In my humble opinion, the test is not if the DREAM “fits” the Scriptures but whether or not the DREAMER is living by Torah and pointing people to Yehovah versus false gods.

I am a Torah observant follower of Yeshua and have had dreams with planes and cars in them. Those modes of transportation are not in the Bible but that does not warrant dismissal of the dream.

I also dreamed I was married to Pres Trump and one could assume that speaks to adultery and the dream should be “acquitted.” However, I knew this imagery meant I was to pray for this president daily as I would my own spouse.

I believe fixation on dreams above Scriptures is dangerous but I also feel that we must avoid dismissal of dreams by adding fences around them that Yehovah never required.

Blessings to you all and thanks for all these wonderful pearls. My Hebrew insight has been greatly enriched.

So could the Chamberlain of the Butchers that bought him and the Chamberlain of the butchers that ran the prison be the same man?

Ayin is the eyes…so, yes of the Roc…

1.Bible never cover the crime of jealousy between brothers.
2.When I mentioned Bible before the people, always I will be asked: Are u a Christian? Labelling people is a behavior of searching feeling of safe. If say yes, I will got a big thrumb but never talked about bible detail anymore.Maybe most people like staying with ones same with them.Maybe this is also a labelling from myself. Anyway it is normally and socoially for humans.
3.I was also deprived of reading old testament priority when I first time read bible in chiritian church group. But God blessed I was still moved by the Yehovah’s words in Torah after I reading old testament all by myself.

Yehovah is my saviour and redeemer.
No one before him and no one after him.

Dear Mr. S. Harrington, I do agree with you in that where Adam failed, YaHaShuah Conquered. Remember what the word say’s He Will Be called Emmanuel. I cannot find that name anywhere exept in He was called ,”God with us, in Hebrew. The name Joshua is a greek translation, but his hebrew name is YaHaShuah just like Jesus. God Left Adam and Eve therefore the Holy Spirit Left. With Messiah through Him “God Is with us through the Holy Spirit. YaHaShuah Told the Apostle I must leave so the Holy Spirit can Come.

Could the meaning of the name of Judah’s first-born, Er, be derived from the names of the letters themselves? (I know it’s not great practice to play about with trying to gain meaning that isn’t there from the letters of the words, but if the word has no meaning, could it be useful?) The letters are ayin resh. Could it mean, “head of the spring”? Similar to the idea of the temple from which flows the river of life (Ezekiel 47)?

I pray that God would open the eyes against the traditional belief that Jesus is “God in the flesh”. Jesus is the “shakan”, the dwelling place of God- just as we being in the image of God are the shakan of the Holy Spirit. (Col. 2:9), There are thousands of verses that deny that Christ is ontologically identical with God. As the firstborn of creation, the Father has chosen the physical body of Christ as His dwelling place, His temple. Christ “inherits” the name of God (Heb. 1:4). If one reads 2 Sam. 7:12-15 we see that Christ commits iniquity (but does not sin) and that the Father will not take away the Spirit from Christ like he did to King Saul. This is why Christ indicates that only the Father is good in Matt. 19:17. Imagine that, Christ would not say that he was “good” yet my fellow Christians say that they are “good Christians”. This false doctrine is a great dividing point between Jew and Christian and will not last forever as Christ soon returns. Christ is our mediator of a new and better covenant. As mediator He can not be one of the disputants (God the Father vs. mankind).

Praise to the YHVH for His Love and Faithfulness in giving us Torah Pearls Psalm92

1 It is good to give thanks to the Lord,
And to sing praises to Your name, O Most High;

2 To declare Your lovingkindness in the morning,
And Your faithfulness every night,

3 On an instrument of ten strings,
On the lute,
And on the harp,
With harmonious sound.

4 For You, YHVH, have made me glad through Your work;
I will triumph in the works of Your hands.

5 YHVH, how great are Your works!
Your thoughts are very deep.

6 A senseless man does not know,
Nor does a fool understand this.

7 When the wicked spring up like grass,
And when all the workers of iniquity flourish,
It is that they may be destroyed forever.

8 But You, YHVH, are on high forevermore.

9 For behold, Your enemies, YHVH,
For behold, Your enemies shall perish;
All the workers of iniquity shall be scattered.

@ Nancy, in my research I see a coat decorated with gold.

The valuation of Joseph is equal to the valuation set in Leviticus 27:3

So many Pearl’s in one teaching!! These insights bring fresh understanding to the whole Torah, especially the genealogy of Judah. I love too seeing YeHoVaH remove wickedness…. reverance for Him indeed!

good teaching! I picked up several pearls! thanks.. enjoyed.

If Pharaoh was eunuch, did he leave town to set up Joseph and the wife, so that she’d conceive and Pharough would have a son?

Oops not sure how I put ‘yellow vs..” In there.

Hi Nehemia, and Chag Semeach! So this weeks parshar Gen 37:30 did Ruebens’ younger brothers let him believe Joseph was killed by an animal? And what does that mean when Rueben asks “as for me, where am I to go”? The yellow vs of Joseph is my favorite of all the Torah. So rich with teachings for everyday life, ‘does and don’ts’.
Thank you soon much for all your sharing to common folk like me. I praise YeHoVaH for you.

My Bible has notes saying that part of the reason for Genesis 38 being smacked into the middle of the Joseph story is to point out that Jacob deceived his father, then Judah deceived his father. This all leads to Judah’s transformation, just as Jacob was also transformed. What do you think?

OK, another comment. In Levitcus 27:5, the amount a person should give to make an special vow to the Lord is 20 shekels for a male from age 5 to 20 years old. So, where does this amount come from? I know you stated it was the going rate. How did it get into Leviticus?

In my Bible notes, it says that Reuben may have wanted to save Joseph (and not kill him) to get back in his father’s good graces after messing up in Genesis 35:22 when he slept with Jacob’s concubine, Bilhah. What significance is there in that? Would looking after Joseph have patched up things with Jacob?

I don’t see anything mentioned about the ‘coat of many colors’. In my Bible notes it says that the Septuagint translates the Hebrew as ‘coat of many colors’ but that others argue the Hebrew really says ‘long coat with sleeves’. What do you say the Hebrew says?

Sarah,

I agree with you there is no connection. The only way to see the connection that Erin sees is to put on “eisegesis” glasses.

“eisegesis”
An interpretation, especially of Scripture, that expresses the interpreter’s own ideas, bias, or the like, rather than the meaning of the text.

Thanks be to Yehovah for removing my eisegesis glasses.

Was I listening to the same Torah Pearls discussion as Erin Hunter? I don’t get the connection.

Very good examination from all you you today!!!

It is so important to study the WORD OF YHVH, He definitely opens the eyes [perception] of the blind… + drives out the darkness [all that opposes His TRUTH [s] ]

YHVH SPEAKS THROUGH TO A HUMBLE AND REPENTANT HEART HERE, IN ME:
My eye opener was, ‘Isa 55:8 For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways, saith the LORD.
Isa 55:9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways, and My thoughts than your thoughts.’

JPS
Isa 55:2 Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your gain for that which satisfieth not? Hearken diligently unto Me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness. Isa 55:3 Incline your ear, and come unto Me; hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.

May YHVH bring us all safely to His plan as one man!!! IN YSHVH the PURE LAMB, slain from the foundation of the earth! Yay!!! YHVH has provided the Lamb from the very start to show us all, TRUTH!
TS2009 VERSION
Mat 13:35  so that what was spoken by the prophet might be filled, saying, “I shall open My mouth in parables, I shall pour forth what has been hidden from the foundation of the world.” Psa_78:2. 

Joh 1:1  In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 
Joh 1:2  The same was in the beginning with God. 
Joh 1:3  All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 
Joh 1:4  In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 
Joh 1:5  And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. 

PURE BLOOD FROM THE FOUNDATION OF YHVH’S PLAN,
Rev 13:7  And it was given to him to fight with the set-apart ones and to overcome them. And authority was given to him over every tribe and tongue and nation. 
Rev 13:8  And all those dwelling on the earth, whose names have not been written in the Book of Life of the slain Lamb, from the foundation of the world shall worship him. 
Rev 13:9  If anyone has an ear, let him hear. 

FIRST LAMB?,
Gen 3:21  And יהוה Elohim made coats of skin for the man and his wife and dressed them. 

HE IS THE FIRST AND THE LAST, [KJV]
Besides Me There Is No God
Isa 44:6  Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. 
Isa 44:7  And who, as I, shall call, and shall declare it, and set it in order for me, since I appointed the ancient people? and the things that are coming, and shall come, let them shew unto them. 
Isa 44:8  Fear ye not, neither be afraid: have not I told thee from that time, and have declared it? ye are even my witnesses. Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.

I STAND AND WAIT ON HIS PURPOSE, DAILY.

Isa 46:8  “Remember this, and show yourselves men; turn it back, you transgressors. 
Isa 46:9  “Remember the former events of old, for I am Ěl, and there is no one else – Elohim, and there is no one like Me, 
Isa 46:10  declaring the end from the beginning, and from of old that which has not yet been done, saying, ‘My counsel does stand, and all My delight I do,’ 

Shalom to all

Yes, that is how I read it. Joseph himself says that he was kidnapped from the land of the Hebrews. Genesis 40:15.

Nehemia, what support do you have for your statement that the scripture forbids a man to marry his brother’s widow? You mentioned Lev. 18 and Lev. 20. Lev 18:16 and :Lev. 20:21 do both say to not marry your brother’s wife.

Lev 18:18, in instructing not to marry 2 sisters, refers to “while your wife is living.” Is the lack of this phrase in the other two passages the basis of your understanding?

Is the Hebrew word (eset) rendered wife (in 18:16 and 20:21) also inclusive of widow other than in reference to Nabal’s widow who married David?

This is very interesting – never heard this before.

Gal גל, means open? That’s a new one for me… Hebrew is so….. Interesting!

It does look like Leah’s sons were not there.

It looks like it is not the brothers who sell him to the Ishmaelites. They put him in, but it looks in the Hebrew that the Midianites come by, take him out, and sell him.

If Potiphar was a eunuch, why did he have a wife? Was that normal? Seems like eunuchs would have remained unmarried.

Teenager was an invented word in 1940’s; designed by marketers to invent a new economic pool (where to get money); it begins to divide families through culture. The “teen” now needs his own hair, clothing, music styles. Latter down the road they also invented “pre teen”. We also heard the marketing lie “generation gap”. One who is 17 in near east, devoid of modern “western/Gree/Roman/Babylonian culture” may have been mature enough to handle being named “prince in standing”. I would hope that more young males; receive a dream from Yeshovah; and find wise council to put them

Good Job Men of YeHovah!

Some fantastic work, primarily by Nehemia exposing our dodgy bible translations. Nehemia’s comments on the caravan seem spot on and in agreement with the Qur’an; 12:19. Again we have the veil controversy. The veil is mentioned at least thrice in the Tanakh, Gen.24:65,38:14-15/19, Isa.3:23. Clearly the veil in Gen.38 is worn in a very different context to Rebekah.
If I hear right, the panel is agreeing the story of Joseph is a key part of Bereshit. Indeed it is the concluding document, the finale in my view. In the Qur’an it is the entire 12th surah. I have been listening to SpiritualBabies “Passover Lamb or Passover Man?” Jono seems to view Passover as originating in Egypt (Ex.12:3-13). Yet we have a peculiar situation with Jacob’s sons. They ‘paint’ Jospeh’s robes with the blood of a male goat (Gen.37:31) or lamb (apocryphal Islamic account). According to the Qur’an, the brothers vow to walk righteously after their planned evil to Joseph (12:9). Yet Jacob is no fool, he realises the brothers are hiding the full story (12:18). Joseph’s story is highly symbolic on every level. It is as if the blood of the lamb/goat is salvation/scapegoat to the clan of Israel (Surah2:133-4). Jacob is the Father and he overlooks the sin of the clan/nation. Some may find the connections tenuous but read it as you will. The fact is that Judaism, Christianity and Islam have ranked this story very highly.

Nehemia, in Gen 37:2 : Joseph, a young man of seventeen, was tending the flocks with his brothers, the sons of Bilhah and the sons of Zilpah, his father’s wives, and he brought their father a bad report about them.

Is it mean only Gad, Asher, Dan and Naphtali? Are they who hate Joseph the most?

Psalms 119:18 http://he.m.wikisource.org/wiki/%D7%A7%D7%98%D7%92%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%94:%D7%AA%D7%94%D7%9C%D7%99%D7%9D_%D7%A7%D7%99%D7%98_%D7%99%D7%97
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Psalm+119%3A18

Nehemia could you please write down where to find the prayer to Lord, something like “Jehova, open my eyes so I can see the wonderful things of Torah”?